1912 ELGIN BW RAYMOND391 MODEL15, 21J, 16s,WIND INDICATOR,RAILROAD 14KRGP, VIDE0

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SOLD AS IS, ABSOLUTELY NO RETURNS. I BOUGHT THIS WATCH IN 2016 AFTER BEING TOLD IT WAS SERVICED. IT WENT STRAIGHT TO MY STORAGE CASE. SINCE THEN IT'S BEEN RUN MAYBE 40 HOURS, MAKING SURE IT WAS RUNNING CORRECTLY. EVEN IF WATCH WAS TAKEN APART, CLEANED AND OILED, IT'S STILL BEEN 10 YEARS. THAT BEING THE CASE,I RECOMMEND A SERVICE. DIRT AND OR OLD OIL CAN INTERFERE WITH THE MECHANISM, THIS IS WHY SERVICING IS RECOMMENDED RECENTLY THE WATCH WAS RUN FOR 6 HOURS AND WAS RIGHT ON THE MONEY. I DON'T HAVE PROFESSIONAL TIMING EQUIPMENT SO I CAN'T GIVE EXACT TIMING INFORMATION. ALL THAT SAID, THIS WATCH WAS SOLD IN 1912 FOR ROUGHLY $100.00. CASE WAS REPLACED ON FEB 2, 2026 WITH A STUNNING CWCCo, USA DISPLAY CASE 14K ROLLED GOLD PLATE. IN MY OPINION,IT COMPLETLY CHANGED THE PERSONALITY OF THIS BEAUTIFUL ELGIN WATCH. "YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR" $100 IN 1912 IS WORTH $3,368.92 TODAY I CHOSE THIS DISPLAY CASE JUST TO SHOW OFF THE MOVEMENT, AS IT TURNS OUT, IT ALSO SET THE FACE OF THE WATCH BEAUTIFULLY, MUCH MORE THAN I ANTICIPATED. THIS CASE SEEMS IT WAS MADE FOR THIS WATCH. 1911/1912 ELGIN 391 MODEL 15 ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND THIS EXACT GRADE 391, MODEL #15 AND ORIGINAL DIAL OUTSIDE OF PRIVATE COLLECTIONS. ALWAYS VERIFY WITH THE POCKET WATCH GUIDE TO CHECK WITH SERIAL NUMBER, EXTREMELY IMPORTANT WHEN BUYING SOMETHING LIKE THIS. SERIAL NUMBER IS SHOWN IN ONE OF THE PICTURES, I HAVE ALSO INCLUDED PICS OF THE POCKET WATCH GUIDE INFORMATION. IT SHOWS THE SERIAL NUMBER THAT IS ON THE MOVEMENT, INCLUDING IMPORTANT FEATURES. PRICE REFLECTS THE QUALITY AND THE RARITY OF THE WATCH, I'VE HAD THE WATCH FOR 10 YEARS, THE CASE IS NEW, BOUGHT RECENTLY FROM GLOBAL VINTAGE COLLECTIONS, HERE ON EBAY. IF YOU HAVEN'T VISITED THIS STORE DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND DO IT. IT'S AN INCREDIBLE PLACE TO VISIT. IVE BOUGHT MANY ITEMS FROM THIS GENTLEMAN OVER THE YEARS. A VERY UNDERVALUED WATCH. THIS WATCH WILL BE WORTH WELL OVER $5,000 WITHIN 4 YEARS OR LESS, IF NOT ALREADY IN MANY VENUES. WHETHER WATCH SELLS TODAY OR 10 YEARS FROM TODAY ISN'T IMPORTANT. WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS THAT IT'S APPRECIATED AND WELL TAKEN CARE OF. ENJOY! 1911/1912 DIAL STILL BEAUTIFUL! 114 YEARS OLD LEVER SET WATCH EVERY FUNCTION OF THE WATCH WORKS. THE WIND INDICATOR WORKS, YOU CAN SEE THE HAND MOVE FROM 40 TO 0 AS YOU WIND THE WATCH. 40 MEANS 40 HOURS. YOU'LL SEE THE HAND MOVE TOWARD 40 AS IT'S RUNNING, SHOWING YOU HOW MANY HOURS YOU'VE USED THE WATCH. THIS IS A VERY UNUSUAL FEATURE FOR THE MODEL#15 THEY USUALLY DIDN'T COME WITH WIND INDICATORS THIS UPGRADES THE WATCH. SAFETY BARREL: (WRITTEN ON THE BRIDGE WITH RAISED GOLD LETTERING). The movement is designed with a safety barrel (a patented feature of Elgin's high-grade watches). This feature allows the watch to function without requiring a safety pinion, protecting the train if the mainspring breaks. DOUBLE ROLLER: A double roller is a precision component in a watch movement’s escapement, featuring two distinct tables on the balance staff: a main roller with a jewel and a smaller safety roller beneath it. It acts as a security system to prevent "overbanking," where the pallet fork moves too far and locks incorrectly, ensuring more stable, accurate timekeeping. Enhanced Precision: By allowing more accurate interaction between the balance and the pallet fork, double rollers reduce escapement errors. CUSTOM MADE "14K ROLLED GOLD PLATE", SEE THRU SHOW CASE. "The Elgin B.W. Raymond Grade 391, Model 15 (16-size, 21-jewel) is a highly desirable, collectible railroad-grade watch with a relatively low total production of around 9,000 to 14,000 units (depending on specific variant calculations) . Key Features:Often features a "double-sunk" dial, and if it includes an "Up/Down" wind indicator, its rarity increases significantly, with only 1,000 for this grade391 model 15 estimated to have been produced, according to pocket watch data base. SEE PICS. Produced around 1912, these are considered "fairly rare," especially with original, high-quality cases and functioning Up/Down indicators, which are even rarer. Rarity Level:Moderate to High. With a total estimated production of roughly 9,000 (standard) to 14,000 (including variants), they are less common than other early Elgin models. Significance:21-jewel, 5-position adjustments, lever-set (Railroad Class A). Value Factors:Condition is paramount. A running, pristine example is highly collectible, while damaged dials or non-functional movements reduce value. For an accurate assessment of a specific watch, identifying the movement serial number on thePocket Watch Database is recommended to verify its specific production run and features." " The 16-size, 21-jewel Elgin Grade 391 Model 15 with an up/down indicator was a high-grade railroad watch produced around 1912. It was sold as a movement only and commonly housed in high-quality, durable cases such as Sterling Silver, gold-filled, or other durable materials suitable for railroad service. Case Type: As a 16-size open-face watch, it was designed for open-face, railroad-grade cases (not hunting cases). C ommon Materials: While Sterling Silver cases with large cartouches are known, it was often placed in durable gold-filled cases (like the B.W. Raymond or Father Time branding) suited for daily railroad use. Context: Because Elgin sold movements to retailers who then fitted them into cases, no single, specific, branded case was exclusively used, but rather a standard 16-size open-face case." VERY SPECIAL WATCH, EXCELLENT DIAL WITH BLUE HANDS, THE MOVEMENT IS TOP OF THE LINE WITH DEMASKEENING, RAISED GOLD LETTERING, GOLD SETTINGS, DOUBLE ROLLER, SAFETY BARREL AND A 14K ROLLED GOLD PLATE CASE. THESE WERE ALL HIGH-END OPTIONS THAT WERE PURCHASED BY THE WEALTHY BACK IN THE EARLY 1900S. It winds and sets, keeps accurate time.It's a lever set five position 16s 21 jewel watch. Any questions feel free to text thank you for showing interest. All watches are sold as is and absolutely returns.